It’s been nearly two decades since the U.S. went to war in Afghanistan, but full withdrawal remains the subject of heated debate. In this episode, we sit down with Will Ruger, Vice President for Research and Policy at the Charles Koch Institute. He is also President Trump’s nominee for U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan. Beyond his take on Afghanistan withdrawal, we discuss the Abraham Accords, the communist China threat, and American foreign policy more broadly, focused on an approach of “realism and restraint.” This is American Thought Leaders 🇺🇸, and I’m Jan Jekielek.