The welfare systems of Scandinavian countries are often touted as examples of socialism implemented successfully. But how is the “democratic socialism” being advanced in America today fundamentally different? Why are vandals targeting not just Confederate statues but also the statues of people like Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant? And in the eyes of Dinesh D’Souza, what is the moral flaw at the heart of democratic socialism? In this episode, we sit down with author, filmmaker, and public intellectual Dinesh D’Souza, to discuss his latest book, “United States of Socialism.” This is American Thought Leaders 🇺🇸, and I’m Jan Jekielek.