Is America experiencing something reminiscent of China’s “Cultural Revolution”? What distinguishes this current moment from other, similar movements? How will the recent push to “defund the police,” sparked by the killing of George Floyd, impact policing and black communities across America? And, why is implicit bias training for police not really helpful, and what kind of police reform and training could actually be useful? In this episode, we sit down with Heather Mac Donald, a Manhattan Institute fellow and a contributing editor of City Journal. She is the author of “The War on Cops” and “The Diversity Delusion.” This is American Thought Leaders 🇺🇸, and I’m Jan Jekielek.